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Cook's Bay Fishing Board :: General :: Cook's Bay Soft Water Fishing :: Environmentally you be the judge. Author Topic: Environmentally you be the judge. (Read 748 times) peter Global Moderator Canadian member is offline Joined: Apr 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 742 Location: Cook’s Bay Karma: 16 Environmentally you be the judge. « Thread Started on Sept 23, 2009, 9:20am » For the last two months a contractor has been working on Beach Rd that links Gilford Rd to Shore Acers Drive. Took the old road away replaced with a new one, removed the natural culverts and replaced them with 14” buried concrete storm drains that end 50ft before draining into the lake. Now looking at the two pictures one from before and one from how it looks now my question to you is what acts better to clean deleterious materials such as phosphorus and nitrates that end up in the lake via the storm water conveyance system. Picture # 1 Picture # 2 Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged small fry in a big pond..... peter Global Moderator Canadian member is offline Joined: Apr 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 742 Location: Cook’s Bay Karma: 16 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #1 on Sept 23, 2009, 12:43pm » The way I understand it is the vegetative growth that’s been removed acted as a way to filter the runoff before draining into the lake. Replacing it with stone in my view is only contributing to the problem of the amount of phosphorus and all that other bad stuff draining into Cook’s Bay . Isn’t the idea to filter water as best we can before it enters the lake? Is using stones a better alternative then what was in place? Not being an expert but understanding the environment wouldn’t the best thing to do is remove all the stones and replace them with living growth like before?. The Bay needs that vegetative buffer zone in place to better clean the runoff . Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged small fry in a big pond..... nascargurl1 New Member member is offline Joined: Apr 2009 Gender: Female Posts: 3 Karma: 0 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #2 on Sept 23, 2009, 1:43pm » Although the grass wasnt much of a buffer it still was slightly, but I can almost guarantee you that this was done because one of the neighbours complained about the water on their lawns/property...which they should have thought about before moving lakeside. It kills me when city people move to an area like this and do their darn best to convert the area to be more like the city...if they wanted the city and the conveniences of a city they should have stayed there.... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged bellybuster Junior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 94 Location: Wasaga Beach, ON Karma: 0 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #3 on Sept 23, 2009, 3:34pm » the crap that may or may not drain into the lake down that system is minor compaired to the amount of lake dwellers that drain grey water directly into the lake. All one has to do is paddle around the shore in any lake community to see it. I would like to believe that some study and science was involved in the construction of that and not simply "wanting the city and the conveniences of a city". Contractors don't just come and build something for the sake of building it. They are given a specific set of plans and designs to follow. My guess is there is more to it than what you can see on the surface. Gravel has mass amounts of surface area for biological filtering through natural bacterial action. Ak anyne into back yard ponds. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged addy27 New Member member is offline Joined: Mar 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 29 Karma: 0 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #4 on Sept 23, 2009, 4:22pm » Your right belly buster the city can't just build whatever wherever. Surely the town would have an environmental engineer to ok this project first. Although bad decisions have been made before many times. Peter I would suggest you contact the city for an explanation of this new design and it's benefits. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Wiggler New Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Keswick Ont. Karma: 0 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #5 on Sept 23, 2009, 10:53pm » Hi Peter how are you.... If you want to find out about this project check with Lake Simcoe Region Conservation Authority. Anything that has to do with the lake would have to be authorized through them...if you want to ask questions about this project, they are in Newmarket Phone (905) 895-1281 By the looks of your 2nd picture I would think that this would not be environmentally friendly... straight runoff right into lake not good but look around road sewer pipes straight into lake not good either ...........have a great day not long hardwater yahoo Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged You Don't Need A Floater Suit It Might Only Save Your Life....And Who Would Want That lazyfish New Member member is offline Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 2 Karma: 0 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #6 on Sept 23, 2009, 11:36pm » Not knowing all the facts I would guess that work was done to keep water from draining towards the foundations of those houses. Using those rocks allows the water to be better directed & absorbed in the ground than the grass that was there. Phosphorus and nitrates are going to get into the lake regardless due to the houses on the lake that fertilize their lawns. Everytime that it rains the run-off from the lawns goes into the lake. « Last Edit: Sept 23, 2009, 11:39pm by lazyfish » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged peter Global Moderator Canadian member is offline Joined: Apr 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 742 Location: Cook’s Bay Karma: 16 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #7 on Sept 24, 2009, 8:53am » Clearance would have to be given from the Ministry of the Environment as well as the Lake Simcoe Regional Conservation Authority . Being the last line of defence before the runoff runs into Cook’s Bay and with the environmental problems already documented I’m not sure consideration was given other then to move the runoff faster out into the bay. The flow of the runoff depends on the water table at the time so that means for most of the spring and summer the water just sits there stagnate until the level of the bay drops. There’s over 50 homes in the immediate area that are very confined on 50ft lots with tile beds and wells. There was a study conducted in regards to these wells by the South Simcoe Health Unit going back about 20 years ago now. there findings at the time were that just under half the wells about 45% had some sort of bacterial contamination. That’s why its important to get it right. « Last Edit: Sept 24, 2009, 9:14am by peter » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged small fry in a big pond..... bellybuster Junior Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2008 Gender: Male Posts: 94 Location: Wasaga Beach, ON Karma: 0 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #8 on Sept 25, 2009, 8:20am » Sept 24, 2009, 8:53am, peter wrote: There’s over 50 homes in the immediate area that are very confined on 50ft lots with tile beds and wells. . this alone has a much larger environmental impact than that drainage ever will Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged peter Global Moderator Canadian member is offline Joined: Apr 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 742 Location: Cook’s Bay Karma: 16 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #9 on Sept 29, 2009, 8:42am » At least the towns trying.. Please login to download attachments. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged small fry in a big pond..... peter Global Moderator Canadian member is offline Joined: Apr 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 742 Location: Cook’s Bay Karma: 16 Re: Environmentally you be the judge. « Reply #10 on Oct 17, 2009, 9:51am » Just going to head down and plant some growth with the Lake Simcoe Regional Conservation Authority. This is a good thing that there doing and my hats off to them.. Pics to come… Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged small fry in a big pond..... Forum Jump--------------------» Home--------------------» General--------------------- cbfblive- Cook’s Bay Ice Fishing --- Hut Operators Listing Page --- Accommodations- Lake Simcoe - All Other Lakes - cbfb chat- Live Cam’s of the world- Cook's Bay Soft Water Fishing --- FAQ'S Fishing Articles, Tips and Information --- Boat Rentals Page- Buy Sell Swap Barter. --- Partners ,Legal Disclaimer - Walk The Plank

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